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Old 10-04-2016, 11:26 AM   #57
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Good to know, Ill be doing mine in 2 weeks. Im going to measure what came out for my own curiosity but Im going to put 5 litres in using the top fill method and then ill drain a little after getting the car up to temperature
I do this too.
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Old 10-04-2016, 02:23 PM   #58
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You dont need to drain nothing. Just measure 4.7l. It's been proven hundreds of times, on different forum (vwvortex i think).
The best method to do it.
If engine and oil are hot, you will do it even faster.
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Old 11-02-2016, 08:44 AM   #59
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Just a question guys. I have had my DSG changed by the dealer as part of its maintenance plan.

My DSG tune wasnt too happy with it and I decided to flush out and reuse Motul DCTF that I had in before(really does have cooler temps).

I drained out 5.5L Thats how much the dealer had used. I had all four corners of my car on jack stands and used a spirit level on the box to achieve a flush position. I filled up 5L of Motul, started the car, went through each gear slowly and pausing, waitinf for the temps to hit 35/36 degrees celsius, and then opened the drain hole. I waited for the overflow to come down to a drip and then I closed it. I measured the excess oil, was 500ML. So provided I did this correctly, my trans takes 4.5L and VW had overfilled by almost a full liter.

My question is, with such a large difference in quantity, should I assume the 4.5 to be correct. I topped it of to 4.7L just because I feared it may be slightly underfilled, but now I wonder if Im doing any harm by having that extra 200ml in
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Old 11-02-2016, 01:18 PM   #60
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I usually plug it after i see it slow down and not drip. You should be fine, There must be some fluid left in there from the dealer.
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Old 01-01-2017, 02:15 PM   #61
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Just finished doing this an hour ago. Decided to also replace the DSG pan and gasket. Oil was actually leaking from inside the connector. Too much fluid refill from previous DSG oil change can possibly be the culprit.....if I remember reading somewhere.

Anyhow......
Not sure if it has been mentioned but to speed up the oil fill up, remove the circular screen of the funnel. This is using the top fill method.
1. Unscrew the plastic container portion and you will see the screen.
2. Use a small mechanical screwdriver to remove the black o-ring gasket and then the screen.
3. Put everything back (minus screen) and that's it. You will notice it starts slowly at first but the DSG oil will drain faster than before.

I ended up using 4.7L of Genuine VW DSG oil. All you have to do is leave about 300mL left in the last bottle (out of 5 bottles).
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Old 02-21-2017, 09:35 AM   #62
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Just a question guys. I have had my DSG changed by the dealer as part of its maintenance plan.

My DSG tune wasnt too happy with it and I decided to flush out and reuse Motul DCTF that I had in before(really does have cooler temps).

I drained out 5.5L Thats how much the dealer had used. I had all four corners of my car on jack stands and used a spirit level on the box to achieve a flush position. I filled up 5L of Motul, started the car, went through each gear slowly and pausing, waitinf for the temps to hit 35/36 degrees celsius, and then opened the drain hole. I waited for the overflow to come down to a drip and then I closed it. I measured the excess oil, was 500ML. So provided I did this correctly, my trans takes 4.5L and VW had overfilled by almost a full liter.

My question is, with such a large difference in quantity, should I assume the 4.5 to be correct. I topped it of to 4.7L just because I feared it may be slightly underfilled, but now I wonder if Im doing any harm by having that extra 200ml in
Hi guys,
Where I live, there is a huge argument about the OEM DSG fluid vs other fluids.
Almost all the gti owners don't want to take any risks so every one is using VW OEM fluid which costs about 50USD per litre. thats crazy I know!! Motul or Castorl cost about third the price.

Me like others who have been threat to use anything but OEM fluid. Why? No one wants to take any risk or have any trouble with thier DSG! So I'm about to spend about 250USD on OWM fluid.

Can any one confirm 100% that there is no diiference? Which fluid is better? Is it only fiction that OWM fluid is better?

Thanks for your help.
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Old 02-21-2017, 11:12 AM   #63
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Hi guys,
Where I live, there is a huge argument about the OEM DSG fluid vs other fluids.
Almost all the gti owners don't want to take any risks so every one is using VW OEM fluid which costs about 50USD per litre. thats crazy I know!! Motul or Castorl cost about third the price.

Me like others who have been threat to use anything but OEM fluid. Why? No one wants to take any risk or have any trouble with thier DSG! So I'm about to spend about 250USD on OWM fluid.

Can any one confirm 100% that there is no diiference? Which fluid is better? Is it only fiction that OWM fluid is better?

Thanks for your help.
I've been using Motul or Liqui Moly DSG oil since 40k (Changed at 70k and 100k), without any issues. What applies to engine oil, applies to DSG oil...VW recommends Castrol 5w-40 but that doesn't mean it's the only oil you can use. Just makes sure it's VW spec, change every 40k, and you'll be fine.

In your case, I would go Motul over Castrol.
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wow, that really comforts me. What about the Filter, does it have to be OEM or MAN is also OK?
REgarding VW's recommendation, is it written anywhere as a proof I can show to my local Mechanic?
Finally Why Motul over Castrol?
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Old 02-21-2017, 01:47 PM   #65
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wow, that really comforts me. What about the Filter, does it have to be OEM or MAN is also OK?
REgarding VW's recommendation, is it written anywhere as a proof I can show to my local Mechanic?
Finally Why Motul over Castrol?
- If I recall correctly Mann actually supplies the OEM filter for the DSG. Mann is a trusted brand from Germany, so no issues there. I've use Mann oil filters for the engine all the time.

- VW recommendations should be written in the VW handbook you have with your car and it should be written on the oil bottle itself. For example: "Motul Multi DCTF meets VAG G052182 standards"

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-motul-pa...FQ65wAodYK4COw

And here is a list of other brand DSG fluid you can go with:

https://www.ecstuning.com/Volkswagen...ion/Fluid/DSG/

- Motul over Castrol is honestly just a personal preference. Either one would be fine because they are both trusted names.
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Old 05-16-2017, 07:16 PM   #66
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Bumping an older thread, but I did a fluid change today on my DSG. Used Febi Bilstein fluid which is approved. However, upon following a DIY, I was told the temperature needs to be between 35-45C on VCDS but mine is reading into the 60's. I opened the drain plug while sitting flat, and only got drops out. I'm assuming the correct level of fluid is in there, but why is it running this hot?
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Old 05-18-2017, 02:45 AM   #67
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There is a difference between the temperature that provides the correct volume and the operating temperature of the transmission fluid, the max temp is 95 degrees C, I would expect 60 C after a drive greater than 20 minutes and an ambient temp over 25 C.
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:10 PM   #68
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Ah so I'm seemingly ok then. I live in hot and humid SoFlo, so that may be the cause. It seems to be working fine, but I might add a little more fluid tomorrow, since I think I might've lost a little bit yesterday due to not tightening down the drain plug.
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Picked up LiquiMoly fluid + filter for $76 shipped. Going to tackle this over the weekend with the top fill method.
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Picked up LiquiMoly fluid + filter for $76 shipped. Going to tackle this over the weekend with the top fill method.
It's so easy with the top fill method.

Main tip to speed up the filling process...When using the "Flotool 10704" funnel, remove the small metal grate. It'll allow the oil to flow quicker through the funnel. Also, use a 16.9 oz Poland Spring water bottle to measure out the 0.3L out of the 5L of DSG fluid. 0.3L on the water bottle is right at the bottom line of the label.
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