I guess it was an older thread, how were you supposed to know, right?
< well, it was like a year ago. Doesn't it say TFSI on your engine cover tho? it does on mine, and its a TSI, technically speaking.
they are a dime a dozen around certain parts every 16 y.o. Asian girl drives one. And I know from the numbers (in Canada anyways, that the quattro A3's sell more than the FWDs..
<< because girls don't drive GTI's either? my A3 is a quattro? this point was never addressed by me in the beginning, so not sure what this is about?
Really? used cars selling for less than new? Go figure. And tell me more of this stuff you have read on teh interwebz!!
< lol.. .well, I had to point out why I bought my A3 for less than the R and simply stated it was used and that it saves money...
so much misinformation/lack of knowledge. If you don't know something, why spew it?
< um, I fully stated and advised that I wasn't certain and to look it up? I don't get your problem/point/beef here? you should go into politics...
What exactly is your point? If you're arguing where I said it was slower, etc can you figure it out yet as to why?
- stock for stock, it has less power - that's a given no? its also slightly heavier - this isn't rocket science, dude. You argue in circles...
2. Golf R up until recently, was not being discounted. A comparable premium R to an Autobahn GTI was still hovering around $38K.
Yes... but what are you getting at? I never once mentioned GTIs. I was talking about an A3 quattro vs Golf R..
Correct, but the R Premium is essentially an Autobahn GTI as far as the interior and options go, you know that, right?
3. The AWD system on the R and the A3 is exactly the same.
Nope. Sorry. Do your homework again.. Perhaps hacve an adult check your answers next time.
I provided a link to the HPA motorsports site where it fully says that some A3's have the Gen 4 Haldex, which is the same as the Golf R. Did you not see that link or can you provide concrete evidence to the contrary? I'll have to check mine sometime, as I do not know if its Gen 3 or Gen 4. I would imagine if they are seeing this later on/.more of recent, that the newer cars would have the Gen 4 system. Not sure if you knew, but the same downpipes that fit my car also fit the Golf R.
4. Some may want the A3 over the R due to lack of a DSG option in the R - which is why I bought the A3.
Fair enough, you can't drive a manual tranny effectively.. Neither can most 16 y.o. little girls.
The 16 yr old girl comment again? amazing... I had a MT and can drive MT quite well, but I've had carpal tunnel and tendonitis surgery and a pretty shitty drive to work, so I opted for the quicker DSG , which is a total hoot with AWD and the K04, btw.
5. Some may not want the FSI variant engine in the R.
Yeah, who wants a more robust, reinforced block, forged internals and a K04 from factory? *waits for cam follower quip*
There has been things going wrong with the R engine, just like things can go wrong with the 2.0T TSI engine. Shit can still happen. Yes, the cam follower was revised, but yes, it can still fail. I also said "some" - that didn't say "me/myself/I".. lol..
6. VW owns Audi. Fit and finish, rattles and all, will be similar in both cars as they are essentially built on the same platform.
No way? Really? next youre going to tell me that VW owns Porsche and Lamborghini!?!? All lies!!! But getting back to my original point on this one, is that the A3 didn't get the refresh the MK6 saw over the MK5. The A3 interior is lackluster at best, and is reminiscent of a MK4/MK5 Golf.. The MK6 Golf interior lines/detail follow suit much more with the B8 A4 and A5
I never argued that interior wasn't as nice or refreshed, but the rattles and overall quality will be the same - that was my point, and yes, perhaps closer to the MK5 golf, sure I can see that. If not more like the prior TT, actually.
7. I bought used and saved a ton. I typically buy my cars new to save big time compared to new, especially on German cars.
Now this idea I can stand behind for the most part. I've owned dozens and dozens of vehicles, the Golf R is the first vehicle I have ever purchased new and that was because one of my best friends is a sales manager at VW and gave me one helluva deal in addition to other factory discounts and incentives I received. He had a used one there but it would have ended up costing me more money.. Go figure.
well sure, you have a connection - kudos, that's great. In the beginning many paid sticker, plus tax, so guys were buying $40K R's...
And guranteed, the 'whoa dude' comments are comming from kids. Nothing wrong with that if your goal is to impress kids at the local highschool. And you're telling me that you gave up a better equipped car so kids would say 'woah dude'? OK? I think you said you have the quattro in your A3, so then it is an upgrade in that regard. But what about those seats? or that non-inspiring dash layout? Beige headliner? List goes on and on. And thats just in the aesthetics department..
i didn't say kids, I would say just about everyone tho. Again, stop twisting my words... I also didn't say I bought the car to impress people, but it does do that, yes. I did fully state that I it was the perception the car gives - I didn't say that's why I bought it. Seats -yep, they are pretty flat. Dash - gauges good, AC vents very nice/TT style, rest - nothing too crazy. Headliner - don't really care. This car was bought primarily for performance first, looks second.
If you look for my GTI build and review my A3 build thread, the reasons I bought the A3 were to avoid a clutch install, go back to having AWD (I've had STI's, Evo, 911 C4, etc), and was enticed by the DSG + K04 + AWD.
I think the R is a very nice car, but for me in my situation and what I wanted, I went with the A3.
I've fully stated what pertains to ME, and what pertains to others - apparently, you are having a hard time figuring the difference between those two.