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Dogbone Mount Insert Concerns
- Thread starter Leviathan
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supreme_gti
Go Kart Champion
replace (upgrade) both dogbone mount and the factory torque arm. This is what I plan to do eventually.
1) torque insert
https://www.034motorsport.com/bille...agen-golf-jetta-gti-gli-8j-8p-audi-tt-a3.html
2) pendulum arm
https://www.034motorsport.com/034mo...2-0-tsi-tdl-2-5l-3-2l-vr6-24v-motorsport.html
supreme_gti
Go Kart Champion
so the stock arm is no good when upgrading the dog bone insert.
The only way to prevent this from happening is to replace BOTH at once.
Tyler12108
Go Kart Newbie
be prepared to have a lot more NVH
Leviathan
New member
I was leaning towards upgrading both anyway but this convinced me. Thanks for your input, I appreciate it.
supreme_gti
Go Kart Champion
ya I heard.... noticeable NVH....
supreme_gti
Go Kart Champion
I will replace with stock insert/arm instead... I don't want NVH to increase... I already find the 2.0T loud and noisy
supreme_gti
Go Kart Champion
I agree, but I don't want to spend money on the parts and then not like the NVH, not be able to tolerate NVH... at that point, I'd be forced to live with it... I wouldn't revert back to stock parts... the risk of modifying a car... lol I only accept opinions from those who driven GTI's or own a GTI, every one else's statements are ignored.Nvh is subjective, personally I don't mind it and think the pros out weigh the cons by a lot, but I've also had normies tell me my car feels broken
Everything with a grain of salt
Experience it for yourself... at an expense, of course.
supreme_gti
Go Kart Champion
I'm stuck between the 034 torque arm and APR torque arm...
034
https://www.034motorsport.com/034mo...2-0-tsi-tdl-2-5l-3-2l-vr6-24v-motorsport.html
APR
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-apr-parts/billet-pendulum-mount-upgrade/ms100106~apr/
GolNat
Autocross Champion
I’ve got about 24k miles on the APR and it’s been great. Handles K04 power wonderfully.
CSB: I bought it used for $125 from a guy with a TDI. He didn’t like it. Well APR doesn’t approve it for a TDI. I installed it and hated it. So much NVH. Took it off and inspected it. Found some slop in the spherical bearing. Emailed APR and told them everything from buying it used from a TDI owner and sending them a video of the play in the bearing. They had me send it in so they could check it out. Found it to be bad and they sent me a brand new one. Installed the new one and NVH was so much better.
CSB: I bought it used for $125 from a guy with a TDI. He didn’t like it. Well APR doesn’t approve it for a TDI. I installed it and hated it. So much NVH. Took it off and inspected it. Found some slop in the spherical bearing. Emailed APR and told them everything from buying it used from a TDI owner and sending them a video of the play in the bearing. They had me send it in so they could check it out. Found it to be bad and they sent me a brand new one. Installed the new one and NVH was so much better.
supreme_gti
Go Kart Champion
Thank you so much for sharing your experience.
I will go with the APR torque arm and the insert I don't know which brand to go with... I will do more research. I am leaning towards the 034 insert
https://www.034motorsport.com/bille...agen-golf-jetta-gti-gli-8j-8p-audi-tt-a3.html
Do you guys think the stock insert and stock torque arm can fail?
My GTI is KO4, mod list is my signature.
jay745
What Would Glenn Danzig Do
You'd likely shred the rubber subframe mount vs the arm failing. With a k04 I think you'd be better off with a full puck replacement like hpa (they do t make them anymore but you can still find them) vs an insert. The 034 inserts are garbage and bend. If you're stuck on an insert go with a poly insert.