SlowS3
Ready to race!
Good info for anyone looking to go Eurodyne and that is already tuned! Looks like if i decide on doing this next month, ill have to get my revo dealer to put me back to stock.
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FrankenTurbo F23T Review and build thread.
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Good info for anyone looking to go Eurodyne and that is already tuned! Looks like if i decide on doing this next month, ill have to get my revo dealer to put me back to stock.
chrisisnapping
Go Kart Champion
i believe each company re-encrypts the ECU when they flash it. So even in stock mode, that encryption persists, and no tuner is really going to spend the time to crack someone else's encryption.
So you have to get it flashed back to stock to remove that encryption, at that point the stock encryption should be on the ECU, then a new tuner can tune it.
looking forward to hearing more updates/opinions on the F23T. May look into it in the not-too-distant future. Just need a solid tune.
So you have to get it flashed back to stock to remove that encryption, at that point the stock encryption should be on the ECU, then a new tuner can tune it.
looking forward to hearing more updates/opinions on the F23T. May look into it in the not-too-distant future. Just need a solid tune.
.:AreThirteeTwo
Canyon Runner
AU ran into the same problem with my giac software. I know they are trying to work on something to get the euro dyne put on as my cars been out about a week now
steemax
Go Kart Champion
Yeah kinda sucks but it's the nature of a product in progress... Hopefully we'll be able to tune over the stock revo file.
I know AU said there was no luck with the GIAC stock file and Unis software doesn't even allow it. APR stock file is able to be flashed over.... So time will tell.
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doug@frankenturbo
Turbos Galore
The flashing process over OBD has a limited ability to "force" a new file onto the ECU. Basically, the flash-loader needs a successful handshake from the ECU in order to begin, and virtually all the aftermarket software companies have counterfeiting protections which block the handshake. This is purely a protection for the licensing companies' intellectual property. The fact that it blocks OBD-port over-writing is kind of just an unfortunate side effect.
steveo17
Frankenbuilt
Does this mean I need to have Giac flash me to stock? Or can I just use their flashloader to go to the stock file?
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Rotaryknight
Go Kart Champion
Flash loader isn't a true "stock"
steveo17
Frankenbuilt
Yeah I've just realized that after reading the last few posts.
Does this matter though with the drivermotorsport tune?
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Rotaryknight
Go Kart Champion
Not sure. Don't think they've had to switch anyone over yet. Their test cars have been stock I believe. I may be wrong though.
doug@frankenturbo
Turbos Galore
My personal experience with a GIAC file in "stock mode" is that the anti-piracy protections are still there. I think it's prudent to assume you need the ECU restored to purely stock. This can be done at a VW or GIAC dealer.
jerome99
Go Kart Champion
Post Dyno graph please I would love to see how the tq curve looks
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gti_kev
Go Kart Champion
Avant
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Wait wtf? Using the FT23? What gas? What dyno!?
And I'm pretty sure anyone can flash over GIAC's software by flashing it on the bench and putting it in boot mode (not sure about OBD-II). I've never heard of someone not being able to flash over the software. Austin should probably chime in on this.