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Old 04-08-2012, 12:56 AM   #1
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Scorpion TBE Installed/Thoughts

So I finally got my Scorpion TBE on Friday, and naturally it made its way to my R Saturday morning I got the Catted Resonated TBE. The install took about 5 hours, a bit less. I did it with 2 buddies, and it was NOT a breeze.. Had to drop the center shaft to get the stock DP out of the engine bay.. It was NOT an easy install, and I should have done my DD before jumping into it.

As for thoughts, its just what I wanted! The car is almost stock at idle, and quite when your just doing city driving. As soon as you get on it, it roars. Almost too loud. The car pulls much better when I get on it, and I cant wait to get flashed for APRs Stage 2+!

I just got a CEL (after about 30 mins of driving), and I still have some sort of rattle coming from underneath that car. It is INSANELY annoying and I need to get it jacked up again to look at it.. Just not sure when Ill have time again..

All in all, im really happy with the pipes. Would have liked for them to be a little bit lower, but ill take what I have

Any thoughts about preventing the CEL? Is the 42DD bung my ONLY option?

EDIT 3 Days after install:

So all issues ironed out. No more rattle and a cleared CEL (APR Stage 2+). I LOVE this TBE! It is BARELY louder than stock when im just cruising around town. It only really gets loud when Im stepping on it, and even then its not outrageous.

I had some issues with the vaccum hose coming out a few times, but I now secured it and ziptied it in and all is well. I would recommend this TBE to everyone looking for one. The gain is pretty substantial and I felt a gain as soon as I installed it. I dont know what the numbers come to, but you can definitely feel a better air flow when you step on it.

Thanks to Matt@GMP for a great product and solid support since I've bought it!

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Old 04-08-2012, 02:03 AM   #2
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Having not seen where the existing O2 bung is, can't you just use a Spark Plug Non-Fouler that's been dremeled out? We used to do this all the time on our Evo's. Cost like $7 and just uses the existing O2 bung. No need to weld a new one in. I ran a catless Evo with this and never threw a CEL.
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Old 04-08-2012, 09:06 AM   #3
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Interesting.. How would I get my hands on one? I was under the impression that the 42DD would screw into the existing bunge, then the o2 sensor would screw into the 42DD...?
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Old 04-08-2012, 09:28 AM   #4
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Old 04-08-2012, 12:49 PM   #6
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Sweet! Should I get one for each O2? Or just the second one after the cat?
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Old 04-08-2012, 01:33 PM   #7
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Make sure the straight section after the DP is turned correctly. There is a slight bend in it that you may have missed. That's my guess as to where your rattle is coming from.
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Old 04-08-2012, 04:43 PM   #8
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I noticed the bend too.. And lined it up with the original DP.. Ended up with the logo plaque facing the passenger side.. Is that how yours lined up too?

Also, just noticed that the rattle isnt there anymore when I just stepped out of the car.. So it seems to be on and off, not constant..

Might jack it up in a couple hours to see what it may be..
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Old 04-08-2012, 04:46 PM   #9
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I used RAI straight o2 Sensor spacer with the middle jet. After 20 miles, my CEL was gone.
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So I finally got my Scorpion TBE on Friday, and naturally it made its way to my R Saturday morning I got the Catted Resonated TBE. The install took about 5 hours, a bit less. I did it with 2 buddies, and it was NOT a breeze.. Had to drop the center shaft to get the stock DP out of the engine bay.. It was NOT an easy install, and I should have done my DD before jumping into it.

As for thoughts, its just what I wanted! The car is almost stock at idle, and quite when your just doing city driving. As soon as you get on it, it roars. Almost too loud. The car pulls much better when I get on it, and I cant wait to get flashed for APRs Stage 2+!

I just got a CEL (after about 30 mins of driving), and I still have some sort of rattle coming from underneath that car. It is INSANELY annoying and I need to get it jacked up again to look at it.. Just not sure when Ill have time again..

All in all, im really happy with the pipes. Would have liked for them to be a little bit lower, but ill take what I have

Any thoughts about preventing the CEL? Is the 42DD bung my ONLY option?
APR software will turn the CEL off
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Here is our video just in case anyone was wondering what just the scorpion downpipe with stock exhaust sounds like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t79WB...layer_embedded
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Interesting.. How would I get my hands on one? I was under the impression that the 42DD would screw into the existing bunge, then the o2 sensor would screw into the 42DD...?
I looked at the pic and it didn't look like it, but I'm a VW noob.

Here's how to best explain it.

http://www.civicforums.com/forums/22...on-w-pics.html
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Old 04-11-2012, 12:21 PM   #13
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Thanks for the post! I got my stage 2+ flash yesterday and all's well and dandy.. Spent 30$ on a part I dont need, but its all good..

Thanks for the great feedback though!
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I would love to see the gains with 2+ vs. 1+. We need a dyno day.
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When I get my car I will be doing before and after Dyno's.
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Hi Tamz273,

I'm looking to run the same exhaust+DP combo and a similar 2+ tune. Probably get my parts in next month, so your experience is of great interest to me. What other tough bits were there with the install aside from having to drop the shaft?. Were the install instructions with the Scorpion clear and did you figure out the rattle?. I was under the impression that the Scorpion TBE was designed to replace the stock unit without popping up CELs...

Was this your only mod or was there other stuff like an intake, intercooler or HPFP? Sorry about the bunch of questions, just want to know what I am in for so that I can book the right amount of lift time at my friends garage and figure out if my fuel system will handle more air and boost.

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Hi Tamz273,

I'm looking to run the same exhaust+DP combo and a similar 2+ tune. Probably get my parts in next month, so your experience is of great interest to me. What other tough bits were there with the install aside from having to drop the shaft?. Were the install instructions with the Scorpion clear and did you figure out the rattle?. I was under the impression that the Scorpion TBE was designed to replace the stock unit without popping up CELs...

Was this your only mod or was there other stuff like an intake, intercooler or HPFP? Sorry about the bunch of questions, just want to know what I am in for so that I can book the right amount of lift time at my friends garage and figure out if my fuel system will handle more air and boost.

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Hey Saimee

We actually sold Tamz his exhaust. We also have great shipping rates to Asia. I just sent an Audi RS4 complete dual cat back exhaust to Japan for less than $400 via DHL Express 3 day delivery.

Right now we are 6 weeks out on all Golf R Scorpion exhaust that are not in stock. Aside from dropping the shaft and the stock exhaust and a little lubricant on the hangers that should be everything. Also for the record all turbo back exhausts or just downpipe installs that either cat less or come with high flow cats will cause the CEL light to come in with out getting a software upgrade or installing O2 Spacers. And Stage 2+ APR software consists of having a downpipe or turbo back exhaust installed with a high pressure fuel pump upgraded. Just a downpipe or turbo back exhaust is stage 2.
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Hey Matt,

Many thanks for that info. It really helps my planning.

Sadly, I have already ordered the parts from Forge UK as I will probably be going over to UK and would bring them back with me. At the moment I am looking to run pretty much all Forge parts, TBE, Twintercooler and Twintake. A few weeks ago I spent a lazy Sunday putting in the Forge Catch Can and DV, but am still kinda looking around for an APR HPFP although it can be sourced locally. I know I'm not yet a client of yours, but do you guys have any idea if the Neuspeed Turbo Output pipe and charge pipe would fit the Twintercooler silicon piping?. I was just looking to complete the entire turbo-intercooler-throttle body piping upgrade as I would prefer to do it in one go.

I am also wondering whether to bother with the RS4 fuel regulator tweak with the APR Stage 2+ tune. Much appreciate your thoughts. Sorry to Tam for hijacking the thread.

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