Focus ST vs. Stage 1 APR We shall soon find out

[dwagner88]

At the end of the day, it's still a POS 'merican made car...

Wow. Stuck in 1990 or something?

 

[99bajakid]

focus st will have 250 horsepower that is coming to america, I'm not so sure if the stage 1 could beat that...thats just my guess

if you know anything about ford you'd know they tend to fudge the hp/torque rating on their vehicles. The focus st might have 250 hp at the crank (doubtful) but nowhere near the 250 wheel hp of a stage 1 GTI.

 

[maxtdi]

if you know anything about ford you'd know they tend to fudge the hp/torque rating on their vehicles. The focus st might have 250 hp at the crank (doubtful) but nowhere near the 250 wheel hp of a stage 1 GTI.

Since when does a stage 1 GTI have 250whp? It's more like 220.

 

[99bajakid]

Since when does a stage 1 GTI have 250whp? It's more like 220.

unless i'm reading the dyno wrong apr claims 250 with stage 1

http://www.goapr.com/products/ecu_upgrade_20tsi_trans.html

 

[CFG9000]

unless i'm reading the dyno wrong apr claims 250 with stage 1

http://www.goapr.com/products/ecu_upgrade_20tsi_trans.html

"10% driveline loss added"

Reading comprehension is useful.

 

[99bajakid]

"10% driveline loss added"

Reading comprehension is useful.

cant read what you dont see. Sorry if i missed 5pt font.

so with that said gti stage 1 still has more hp than a stock focus st. I guarantee you the focus ST does not have 250 crank hp.

 

[maxtdi]

cant read what you dont see. Sorry if i missed 5pt font.

so with that said gti stage 1 still has more hp than a stock focus st. I guarantee you the focus ST does not have 250 crank hp.

You won't give up... eh?

http://accessecu.com/dyno/graph.php...935&rgb2=204000000&runid3=3936&rgb3=000153000

226 hp / 284 ft-lb tq
222 hp / 279 ft-lb tq
226 hp / 286 ft-lb tq

Exactly 250 crank

 

[99bajakid]

244 hp is not exactly 250 crank hp math iz hard

 

[99bajakid]

I find this interesting:

2013 Ford Focus ST (5-Door) 0-60 mph 5.9 Quarter Mile 14.3

2012 Volkswagon GTI Edition 35 DSG 0-60 mph 5.4 Quarter Mile 13.9

source - http://www.zeroto60times.com/Ford-0-60-mph-Times.html

 

[maxtdi]

244 hp is not exactly 250 crank hp math iz hard

It is... because 250x.9=225

 

[maxtdi]

I find this interesting:

2013 Ford Focus ST (5-Door) 0-60 mph 5.9 Quarter Mile 14.3

2012 Volkswagon GTI Edition 35 DSG 0-60 mph 5.4 Quarter Mile 13.9

source - http://www.zeroto60times.com/Ford-0-60-mph-Times.html

35 edition has a K04 and the older FSI same as the current golf R

 

[99bajakid]

35 edition has a K04 and the older FSI same as the current golf R

ah, that explains it. I didn't know the 35 edition was any different. then the regular gti's


in that case:

2011 Volkswagon GTI 0-60 mph 6.4

(same site)

 

[iwannagofast]

99bajakid, please do a little research before you post comments. You have consistently posted incorrect statements and had to be corrected numerous times. Please read up on the Focus ST 2.0L engine and their Borg Warner K03 and then do the same for your TSI engine, you will notice they are very similar. Do a small amount of research and you will save us all the headache of having to correct you.

 

[Xtreme1]

99bajakid, please do a little research before you post comments. You have consistently posted incorrect statements and had to be corrected numerous times. Please read up on the Focus ST 2.0L engine and their Borg Warner K03 and then do the same for your TSI engine, you will notice they are very similar. Do a small amount of research and you will save us all the headache of having to correct you.

ssjneko

Since when did you become a moderator ? Seriously !

56 posts and telling people what to do in regards to posting.

Maybe he does need to read up a bit and think before his posts. But come on leave that job to the mods and work on getting your post count up before telling other members what to do.

 

[manny2206]

We determine that apr claims 250hp, what is whp at a 10% drive train lost, so we say 10/100 = 0.1% that times 250 = 25 so whp is 250-25 - 225whp