Fastlax16
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If everyone concealed carried there'd be a lot more shootings for every millennium park incident that is averted or reversed.
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If everyone concealed carried there'd be a lot more shootings for every millennium park incident that is averted or reversed.
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EJBGTIVI
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^ I agree.
jay745
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How can you guys say that when there are plenty of stats out there that prove states with open carry/lenient gun laws have way less crime rate and murder rate than a city like Chicago. Chicago has the highest gun crime rate in the country. Gun control doesn't work. Numbers don't lie.
What is your counter argument to the raw numbers that prove your statements to be wrong?
cbaumy34
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Lol my buddy did the same thing he was pissed it was like a 50gb game.
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DASVDUB
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I played from midnight to 1am. I'm super tired today, but it was worth it lol!!
This. It has been proven over and over that CCW ownership lowers the violent crime rate in said state. I suppose I could site sources if anyone actually wants to read them.
Just keep in mind, Chicago which was/is the strictest and last state to have CCW and it has the worst gun crime in America currently. Coincidence?
Please site sources showing that shootings/crime goes up with CCW licenses.
Jaber
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Some areas are up 50% this year, the nice ones too. Probably why the Onion made that one article about Rahm all the sudden caring, cause it's moving to the nice "give a shit" areas :lol:
lol... have yet to see one, unless you're a gangbanger/criminal. When you're accountable for every bullet, you don't fight a fight that is not yours. But I'll continue waiting for this wild wild west shootout. Didn't even happen during the police shooting in Texas, with Open Carriers.
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Chicago has a gang problem, with a revolving door for criminals. Like the Millennium Park shooter.
50GB, dang. Although with Comcast speeds, usually not a problem. But it sucks when the servers are bogged and your fast internet doesn't matter :lol:
Jaber
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I used to go to those midnight launches, I sure did regret it the next day :lol:
DASVDUB
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Didn't even go to that. Went to gamestop and got the last reserve copy lol. Then was responsible and did my homework before starting to play the game. Should have started downloading the thing while I was working lol.
TSI_Guy
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Bro, teach me how to see the unknown.
Jaber
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Dang, props on being responsible. I used to skip school for tournament matches on Rainbow Six (original game on PC). Dial-up too, prefire like a birch.
[unzips pant]
TSI_Guy
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My buddies would always stay home after a big release (Halo3, COD4, etc...) and I would be stuck at school hating life lol
Dat dialup, dark times man.
Fastlax16
Autocross Newbie
Comparing inner city Chicago to Wyoming isn't really a comparison. If you'd like to argue that Wyoming and Chicago are culturally similar I am all ears. And I agree current gun control laws don't work because jurisdictions don't exist in a vacuum. Silly to try control something in one jurisdiction that is more or less unregulated in a neighboring jurisdiction where goods and people easily flow between.
Think about the number of police shootings by "threatened" officers on unarmed victims in the news with around 750,000 armed police officers in the country. You think arming 242,000,000 untrained people won't raise it? (I'm assuming you'll say something along the lines of "well if everyone is armed, people will be less aggressive")
If EVERY citizen carried a gun you'd have 10x the George Zimmerman situations. The number of "I felt threatened so I shot him/her" claims of self defense situations in this country would skyrocket, especially when you can make the argument that the person you shot was armed.
And statistics can be skewed to support whatever argument you want. Examples:
• For every time a gun is used in self-defense in the home, there are 7 assaults or murders, 11 suicide attempts, and 4 accidents involving guns in or around a home.
• Among Texans convicted of serious crimes, those with concealed-handgun licenses were sentenced for threatening someone with a firearm 4.8 times more than those without.
• A buyback program that wound up taking a fifth of Australia's guns off the street wound up reducing firearm suicides by 74 percent without affecting non-firearm suicides.
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