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Possible Group Buy – Post-TB Spacer for Meth/Water Injection

chrisisnapping

chrisisnapping

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ClapperHighs said:
Here's my question that's been bugging me. Initially I'm only doing one nozzle. I'm on a stock tune right now, so if I spray post tb, is the stock ecu able to adapt to the extra octane properly? Or do I need to be tuned for that set up? eventually I will do dual though.. soon. Lol because as was mentioned earlier, Florida is freaking hot!
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I'm by no means an expert, so take this with a grain of salt.

But from what I understand, our ECUs are VERY adaptable, especially to octane rating. For instance Edmunds did a little test and dynoed a GTI to test 87oct to 91oct, - http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtes...en-gti-the-effect-of-octane-on-its-power.html

As you can see there were increases, I'm sure there are a variety of factors that could also have effected this though (for arguments sake).

In short on the stock ECU you may see a possible noticeable increase in power, however I doubt it'll be instantly, you may need to drive/spray a bit for the ECU to recognize the higher octane and adjust timing appropriately, or it may pick it up quick. computer logic is pretty amazing.
 
CLapperhighs

CLapperhighs

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chrisisnapping said:
I'm by no means an expert, so take this with a grain of salt.

But from what I understand, our ECUs are VERY adaptable, especially to octane rating. For instance Edmunds did a little test and dynoed a GTI to test 87oct to 91oct, - http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtes...en-gti-the-effect-of-octane-on-its-power.html

As you can see there were increases, I'm sure there are a variety of factors that could also have effected this though (for arguments sake).

In short on the stock ECU you may see a possible noticeable increase in power, however I doubt it'll be instantly, you may need to drive/spray a bit for the ECU to recognize the higher octane and adjust timing appropriately, or it may pick it up quick. computer logic is pretty amazing.
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Holy crap, that is pretty cool. Thanks for that info! So then I think may just run the throttle body spacer first, and add the second nozzle somewhere after the intcooler after. :)
 
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ClapperHighs said:
Holy crap, that is pretty cool. Thanks for that info! So then I think may just run the throttle body spacer first, and add the second nozzle somewhere after the intcooler after. :)
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Yep, you'll be good to go!

Mike
 
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gt_nky

Passed Driver's Ed
ClapperHighs said:
Holy crap, that is pretty cool. Thanks for that info! So then I think may just run the throttle body spacer first, and add the second nozzle somewhere after the intcooler after. :)
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you can't go wrong w/ either route... in your particular case (stock intercooler + FL heat), it is hard to guess if post-TB or post-intercooler will give you a better bang for a buck...

since you already bought the spacer, i'd intall that first and see how you like it... later on, i'd add another nozzle though...

on a stock tune stage 1 meth kit will work great... once you get stage 1 or stage 2 tune - i'd also consider getting a progressive/stage 2 meth kit...

i intend to run stage 1 kit on stage 2 car, but i am not seeking a huge performance or cooling increase - just added safety on 93 map, and hopefully some carbon cleaning/preventing benefits...
 
CLapperhighs

CLapperhighs

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gt_nky said:
you can't go wrong w/ either route... in your particular case (stock intercooler + FL heat), it is hard to guess if post-TB or post-intercooler will give you a better bang for a buck...

since you already bought the spacer, i'd intall that first and see how you like it... later on, i'd add another nozzle though...

on a stock tune stage 1 meth kit will work great... once you get stage 1 or stage 2 tune - i'd also consider getting a progressive/stage 2 meth kit...

i intend to run stage 1 kit on stage 2 car, but i am not seeking a huge performance or cooling increase - just added safety on 93 map, and hopefully some carbon cleaning/preventing benefits...
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Exactly, since I have it, ill set that up first. Might as well. :) Even though my initial intention was to set it up for cooling. But post throttle will do a little cooling anyways. I'm still going to be very curious to know what would make more power for me in fl if I had to run only one nozzle.... Keep lost HP and use it for cooling benefits, or try and make more power than i would save running post TB. If that makes sense. I'm having trouble wording this. Lol actually... I may just try a single nozzle set up both ways to see what's better just for curiosity sake, and to get a better idea of how meth works with our engines.

I'm very excited to mess around with this. Meth is fun! :D but ill definitely be doing a dual nozzle set up.
 
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allset

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chrisisnapping

chrisisnapping

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Any update on this? I know they need to get machined, just making sure we don't have to wait too long..

thanks for setting this up too, i'm excited.
 
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gt_nky

Passed Driver's Ed
let me check w/ pagparts... i have been a bit busy at work lately...

the last time we spoke (Monday), he told me it will be about a week before those ship...
 
chrisisnapping

chrisisnapping

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gt_nky said:
per Arnold - "it is all in (payments), and spacers should be done by the end of this week"
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good stuff, thanks :w00t::w00t:
 
chrisisnapping

chrisisnapping

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can't wait for these to ship!!
 
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