You said stage 1 wouldn't cause it but stage 3 could... what I'm saying is by your logic if stage 3 could cause it the cam to break than so could stage 1, both raise the rev limiter which is the only thing in anyway relevant to the camshaft regardless of what stage is it.
I said no such thing. I said I could UNDERSTAND them TRYING to claim Stage 3 broke something, I never said it would. The dealer has THEIR head up their ass here man. Neither tune would have done this and if they WOULD have they would have snapped his original camshaft likity split if they snapped the replacement that fast. Also, as it turns out the rev limiter is not changed by the tune (only the SPEED limiter)........
Car guys in general tend to have there heads way up their asses when it comes to the Magnuson Moss act, it's not this amazing ace up your sleeve that allows you to do whatever the hell you want and make someone else prove you broke it. The reason it was written was to protect consumers against warranties being voided from the use of aftermarket parts and service. That doesn't mean you can add 100 ft/lbs of torque and make an engine run at a level it was not intended to.... it means if you go to Jiffy Lube and get oil changes done with approved oil they can't void your warranty because you didn't use OEM. The purpose is to let consumers have the choice of being able to have things serviced by someone other than the manufacturer without penalty.
No. the purpose is for consumers to be able to do what they want to their cars and not have the dealer back out of the warranty cause they are dicks. Jiffy lube oil filters is the most basic and simplistic example. I mean, our lawmakers are smart people right? They know everything and if they had wanted to exclude performance mods from being covered by this law they most certainly would have added such an exclusion. There is no exclusion in the law stating "None of these provisions apply if engine output is raised with add on modifications."
Seriously though, the purpose is irrelevant since there is no bigger group of people with their heads up their asses than elected officials. The law is written the way it is written and the fact remains that the dealer is required by law to show how a part (any part) caused the failure. Let's be clear, no one is saying it is carte blanche to mod without reprisal. If you strap a tri-turbo setup to your Neon and scream down the road and throw a rod through the hood.....it's pretty clear, they still have to PROVE it.....but that's gonna be pretty easy to do. If I blow my turbo, or bend a rod, or snap a wrist pin I'm going to expect to pay for it. I'm not going to offer up front LOL, but when they come to me and say it's not covered then I'll shrug and pay.
But a camshaft? Specifically a camshaft that was just installed a few hundred miles ago?? Come on man, you have to be arguing devil's advocate here. Camshaft has nothing to do with the tune, camshaft could give a shit about 100ft/lbs of torque, it doesn't see any of it anyway. It just spins along happily opening and closing the valves secured along it's length with bearings that hold it true and straight. A timing belt/chain will snap before a camshaft will.
Maybe we should start a stickied Magnuson-Moss thread to discuss all the nuances and argue semantics.
In the meantime, I am going to wait to hear how the "negotiations" turn out.
