Ukraine: WAR Huh - What Is It Good For Absorootly Nothing

[uglybastard]

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A-10 pilots are gonna piss kidney stones?

 

[Unreal1]

But to your analogy, it would be like the US placing bases in Russian territory because Ukraine is chummy with the US. I don’t see when anyone wanted to put a base in Russia. Conversely, Russia has been actively taking territory from a sovereign nation for 8yrs and has now started a full scale invasion to take the rest. The people of that nation said fuck you, we won’t be your puppet.

Based on our stance with democracy and freedom, we should support them.



Separatist or not, they were run and housed quantities of Russian troops. US troops have very little footprint outside of Germany, UK and Italy, and those support the greater NATO mission. Along the eastern edge of NATO US forces are limited to anti-ballistic missile systems, command and control, and combined training exercises. Which all seem pretty well justified at this point.

How is a Russian base in Canada equivalent to a US base in Russia? You're acting as if Canada isn't a sovereign country. How about Russian bases in Cuba then...

 

[oddspyke]

Ok, but let's play pretend here for just a bit.

Say Russia has some sort of agreement with countries that fit their ideology - and say Canada (US' semi retarded cousin), wants to join that agreement and allow "Russia" to form a couple of army bases just south of the US border. I bet you the good ole' US of A isn't going to be to keen on that idea.

How is a Russian base in Canada equivalent to a US base in Russia? You're acting as if Canada isn't a sovereign country. How about Russian bases in Cuba then...

He's replying to the quote above, where it was suggested that Canada establish bases south of the US border, which would be in the US.

 

[uglybastard]

He's replying to the quote above, where it was suggested that Canada establish bases south of the US border, which would be in the US.

south of the US border is mexico?

 

[Corprin]

How is a Russian base in Canada equivalent to a US base in Russia? You're acting as if Canada isn't a sovereign country. How about Russian bases in Cuba then...

you @Daks said a Russian base in the US, not a Russian base in Canada.

Also, the Cubans were more like Belarus in your the scenario. The Ukrainians don’t want the Russians there.

edited, was mixing the discussion up.

 

[Corprin]

south of the US border is mexico?

Something wall something something?

 

[Daks]

He's replying to the quote above, where it was suggested that Canada establish bases south of the US border, which would be in the US.

I made the mistake and wrote south instead of north. I was thinking south because US is south of Canada. Post should have read north.

In either case, I hope this all gets resolved soon. Having left a country because of war, reimmigration as a kid etc... That shit ain't fun. Missing family, friends, getting acclimated. I just feel bad for all those people.

 

[Corprin]

south of the US border is mexico?

from the Canada/US there’s a lot of US before you hit Mexico.

 

[Daks]

you @Daks said a Russian base in the US, not a Russian base in Canada.

Also, the Cubans were more like Belarus in your the scenario. The Ukrainians don’t want the Russians there.

edited, was mixing the discussion up.

No no, I said a Russian base in Canada.

 

[Corprin]

I made the mistake and wrote south instead of north. I was thinking south because US is south of Canada. Post should have read north.

In either case, I hope this all gets resolved soon. Having left a country because of war, reimmigration as a kid etc... That shit ain't fun. Missing family, friends, getting acclimated. I just feel bad for all those people.

If it were flipped and we were the aggressors, I sure as hell hope the world would fuck us up. Hell, I might be inclined to drive north and shoot south.

 

[jimlloyd40]

no this is a hypothetical. you're the elected leader of this country. what would your direction be?

The sanctions should have started much sooner and the same with munitions support. Other countries are rallying now but it's looking like it's too little too late.

 

[Corprin]

The sanctions should have started much sooner and the same with munitions support. Other countries are rallying now but it's looking like it's too little too late.

You would impose large scale sanctions prior to an invasion?

I’ll leave out the hundreds of ATGMs that were on ground in November to include training.

 

[Sparky589]

The sanctions should have started much sooner and the same with munitions support. Other countries are rallying now but it's looking like it's too little too late.

I disagree, unilateral sanction action by the US prior to the invasion would have given Russia international cover in the invasion as painting the states as having taken the first international 'shot' over Ukraine. Feed into Russia's bullshit narrative of the US as an aggressor and likely would have divided the response from the EU. Having the west offer no provocation and thus creating the political bedrock for a unified economic response will do far more power than the US going alone ever would.

 

[Corprin]

I disagree, unilateral sanction action by the US prior to the invasion would have given Russia international cover in the invasion as painting the states as having taken the first international 'shot' over Ukraine. Feed into Russia's bullshit narrative of the US as an aggressor and likely would have divided the response from the EU. Having the west offer no provocation and thus creating the political bedrock for a unified economic response will do far more power than the US going alone ever would.

^^^all of this

 

[jimlloyd40]

You would impose large scale sanctions prior to an invasion?

I’ll leave out the hundreds of ATGMs that were on ground in November to include training.

Right after the invasion. Were they using the ATGMs the soonest possible? Seems like they waited several days.