VW's Latest R Ad - You can't fake fast....

[troyguitar]

More important than being slow compared to a Mustang is that it's slow compared to its direct competition, STI and Evo. Though if it had the TSI engine I'd strongly consider trading in for one anyway :lol:

 

[XZT123]

If chevrolet can act like their cruze is "fast" in their commercials than VW can surely call the R fast.. lol.

 

[johnnyveelish]

so who's faking fast in the ad? :iono:

 

[Skeptix]

okay?

slow compared to what exactly? A Boss 302 mustang? Of course it is slower but that is a completely different market IMHO.


The R is faster than the GTI or GLI stock for stock so I wonder what you are basing this comparison for?


Anyone else find it funny that all of a sudden a 250hp car is 'slow'? I guess that makes my 110hp Miata even more pathetic if looking at pure hp numbers?


For me the R has plenty of 'umph' to get out of its own way and around slower traffic. I don't need a 400hp Mustang to enjoy my daily commute thanks

Stock Golf R puts about 200-210hp to all wheels.

That's slow as shit.

 

[chris101]

Stock Golf R puts about 200-210hp to all wheels.

That's slow as shit.

according to you I guess.. but it is faster to me considering it is faster than the stock GTI, faster than my former TDI golf and faster than our 2004 Audi 1.8t

 

[mkcsg]

Still the overprice of it makes it a dud.

 

[chris101]

^ so why do all you R 'haters' bother looking at this R thread in the 1st place? Many people don't like the R... I get it.. but so what? I personally hate the newest New Beetle but I dont' hang out on the New Beetle thread either to tell all of them how much I hate it and why.

 

[mkcsg]

^ so why do all you R 'haters' bother looking at this R thread in the 1st place? Many people don't like the R... I get it.. but so what? I personally hate the newest New Beetle but I dont' hang out on the New Beetle thread either to tell all of them how much I hate it and why.

Because its a public forum where opinions are like assholes. I never stated i hated it. Just is overprice for what it is.Although if it came in DSG i probably would buy it just because. Rolling 50 mph burnouts are getting old in my GTI.

 

[former3g]

pointless ad is pointless. VW ad department needs an obvious overhaul.

 

[chinqutie]

Oh how i love the interwebz! So entertaining. With what i've spent on mods, like a lot of us here, i would've had an R then when it was available. Rare? Yes. Because it's limited. Fast? Ummm.........

 

[chris101]

This sums it up nicely from vwvortex:

Now, I've had a lot of vws over the past couple of years. They were all fun cars, but not a single one comes close to the MKVI Golf R. While some GTI owners will bitch about the :R being "over-priced" or outdated due to its FSI origin, the R kicks the GTI stock vs Stock Plain and simple.
I dare say the R can easily match a Stage 1 Mk6 Gti in performance under the same conditions. I happened to get my 2-dr Base R for about the same price as the Autobahn GTI. I have to say the biggest critic of my R is my girlfriend.
She, along with some people online have found the golf R to be unimpressive. The one thing that everyone mentioned was the R's 4th-Gen Haldex kicking ass. That alone is the single biggest thing the R has going for it. Here is a list of parts that a Gti owner will have to obtain to begin to become close to the :R's STOCK value. First lets start off with the cost of two BASE models and what equipment both vehicles have in common.


BASE 12' Golf R 2-door $32,900( if you bother looking for it)
6-speed 2.0 TFSI
BASE 12' GTI 2-door $22,900
6-speed 2.0 TSI

Thats about the only thing both cars come with that are the same.

this list will show you what else you get STANDARD with the R that a BASE GTI doesn't get!

1. S3 K04 ( $1,900 just for the turbo, or $2,600 with file from APR or AWE
2. S3 FMIC plus S3 Discharge pipe $500 from ECS
3. FULL R body kit PAINTED! over $3,000 for UNPAINTED parts
4. Stage 1 equivalent clutch $850
5. Stronger internals ( Depends on what you are looking to do
6 . 4-Motion Haldex 4th Gen ( something NO MATTER how much you mod your FWD car, will never have. For you hardcore BALLERS out there, the cost of just OEM PARTS is over $5,500 not to mention Labor and then at the end will NEVER have a warranty or reliability
7. Bi-xenons! LED DRLs About $1,000 with out Ballasts or AFS controllers, not to mention levelers and CUSTOM WIRING!!!<----- - _ - real safe option here. Called APR when I had a POS gti, told me that they haven't even tried to wire one after market on non-equipped Cars.
8. Premium Audio 8 speakers ( $450 )
9. Leather Seats (correct me if IM wrong , but the autobahn seats are in fact different than the
R's. Isn't this a $1,500 option??
10. R OEM BIG BRAKE KIT $1,000 + from ECS
TOTAL COST FOR PARTS to "CYO" Golf R without 4-motion

$10,200 note, this Price does NOT include 4-motion conversion, cost of Golf R body kit to be painted, or Internals or ECM Tune.

So, you will have to pay about $10,000 even before you flash your K04 (to STOCK R levels) have your imposter R kit painted, Stronger Internals to support higher Power levels, and oh yea, 4-motion. Nothing like wheel-hopping and burning tire to put all that power down through two wheels!!

Include the cost of 4motion conversion , $10,000 (which I confirmed with HPA )
Factory equivalent body kit color match, $3,000 or so plus a K04 tune about $500-600
You will need to spend Approximately $23,600 or so just to get to where the Golf R is STOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SO, cost of GTI $23,000 plus CYO Golf R conversion $23,600
Grand total of $46,600 to get a to a vehicle that only costs $32,900!

Only an Idiot would do such a thing. Everyone has priorities and their own reasons for buying things. This is not meant as an insult to GTI owners, but a Shut the F up Statement to the people out there Bitching about how the Golf R is overpriced and just not worth the money.

SO the next time a hater starts talking smack, just ask him what he has to spend to even get close to your R stock.

I know the Truth hurts.. LOL.

 

[Halvie]

This sums it up nicely from vwvortex:

not trying to really keep this going , but I really don't find its ability to match stage 1 performance anything special either.

$23.6k to match the R, that must be why a k04 GTI still has a faster record than a 2+ R. $23.6k...sure

AWD is really nice, but that is about it. Heard 400whp tossed around in the stage 4 R thread. Hmmm....isn't that what my 3+ puts out. Wonder which build was cheaper.

These thread are getting as old as the wait for a hpfp.

 

[chris101]

Honestly I could care less if someone has a modded GTI that is faster than my R. I'm sure there are plenty out there actually. Top speed/being fast isn't the reason I bought the R so I have no complaints about the factory stock power and therefore have no desire to change it.

 

[Halvie]

Honestly I could care less if someone has a modded GTI that is faster than my R. I'm sure there are plenty out there actually. Top speed/being fast isn't the reason I bought the R so I have no complaints about the factory stock power and therefore have no desire to change it.

Arguing with R owners is like banging your head against a wall.

What was the point of posting the quote you did then? Only applicable when it proves your point right, otherwise who gives a fuck?

Honestly glad you like the car. There are obviously a lot worse cars you can buy, but doesn't change the fact the car isn't really quick.

2.5t next go around and you won't have any complaints coming from me.

 

[chinqutie]

what truth? that it isn't worth it? yeah sure.