Ukraine: WAR Huh - What Is It Good For Absorootly Nothing

[dtfd]

Poland give, russia has "justification" to involve poland in its plans, NATOthen acts accordingly. the dominos would fall quick,.

But its no different from Poland giving to America to give to Ukraine in Germany

 

[dtfd]

NATO is shit scared to call his bluff......but I think they are waiting until they absolutely have to as WW3 is basically an end game..

Allow him to take Ukraine is appeasement

I was hoping we learned our lesson there.

 

[Corprin]

Here's what I'm not getting, why doesn't Poland just hand them over to Ukrainian pilots at Polish bases?

Poland is a NATO country. Any threat of retaliation from Russia is an empty threat, or an open invitation to WW3. Why not push back harder calling Putin's bluff?

If a NATO nation is an aggressor, then Art.5 doesn’t apply. It could be construed giving fighter jets is an escalation and an aggressive move towards Russia.

Additionally, if Poland transfers 26-29 fighters, they’ve reduced their defensive capability. By trading them to us for some used mid-block F16s, they replenish their losses with a “better” aircraft.

Now, Poland trades us Mig29s to flesh out their preexisting move to F16s. We already have a pile of Mig29s in our inventory, so fuck it, give the Polish birds to Ukraine… what’s Russia going to do, declare war in us now? Putin knows, and now the world knows, that we’d mop the floor with their military, but Poland standing on its own wouldn’t do so hot.

Their equipment is poorly maintained, and looks like they’ve been making shit work for years. Even their first line T90s, the cream of their tank crop, is rolling around on worn-out tracks (basically bald tires). They are shipping down civilian vehicles to backfill losses… where is their reserve equipment?!?

I feel the only move Russia has is to throw up the white flag and GTFO.

 

[shovelhd]

But its no different from Poland giving to America to give to Ukraine in Germany

Right, and it's a stupid idea.

This whole thing ends when Zelenskyy is taken out. The only question is how much collateral damage is incurred until then.

 

[uglybastard]

But its no different from Poland giving to America to give to Ukraine in Germany

US being part of NATO, same domino sequence. thats why the US rejected the plan.

 

[uglybastard]

Right, and it's a stupid idea.

This whole thing ends when Zelenskyy is taken out. The only question is how much collateral damage is incurred until then.

Zelenskyy dies, is a martyr for the Ukrainian cause, war continues.

 

[Daks]

It's all catastrophic. It will take decades for that country to even begin to recover.

The pain of this will be felt all over. Ukraine is the bread basket of Europe - the shortage of grain and increase in food prices will be felt all over.

 

[shovelhd]

Zelenskyy dies, is a martyr for the Ukrainian cause, war continues.

Not for long.

 

[Corprin]

Not for long.

In which sense?

Zelenskyy dies:

Russia wins and installs puppet regime, or

Ukraine wins and holds free election to elect the President they want?

 

[Corprin]

It's all catastrophic. It will take decades for that country to even begin to recover.

The pain of this will be felt all over. Ukraine is the bread basket of Europe - the shortage of grain and increase in food prices will be felt all over.

They’ll be having a sale on massive amounts of RDM military tech.

 

[dtfd]

 

[uglybastard]

The whole foreign legion thing is pretty wild.

 

[shovelhd]

In which sense?

Zelenskyy dies:

Russia wins and installs puppet regime, or

Ukraine wins and holds free election to elect the President they want?

The first. Zelenskyy dies, Putin's convoy rolls over the country until they run out of supplies and/or fight. Puppet installed.

Zelenskyy is the only one holding Ukraine together. He's a transcendent figure who is not afraid to use the media to shame countries into giving him $billions in aid. If he is taken out, his influence dies with him.

JMHO. of course.

 

[Corprin]

The first. Zelenskyy dies, Putin's convoy rolls over the country until they run out of supplies and/or fight. Puppet installed.

Zelenskyy is the only one holding Ukraine together. He's a transcendent figure who is not afraid to use the media to shame countries into giving him $billions in aid. If he is taken out, his influence dies with him.

JMHO. of course.

I think it would be 2. He dies a martyr and further solidifies the nations resolve. Russia takes Ukraine and the insurgency drags on bleeding Russia to death. Ukraine has had 30yrs of freedom, they won’t give that up without a bloody drawn out fight. But I’m just a dude on the web.

 

[Corprin]

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